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by Carl Natale

AMA claims it wants to delay ICD-10 implementation 2 years

The American Medical Association (AMA) says it wants the ICD-10 implementation date delayed to Oct. 1, 2015.

Executive vice president and CEO James Madara has sent a letter (48K PDF download) to the acting administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), Marilyn Tavenner that asks for the delay and a few other things. Things such as:

  • A cost-benefit analysis of the administrative and financial impact of ICD-10 implementation.
  • A search for an alternative to the ICD-10 code set.
  • If no alternative is found, then they want ICD-10 implementation postponed indefinitely.
  • A reduction of burden imposed by "multiple health IT programs."

This seems to be a more simple, direct version of the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA) strategy to kill ICD-10 implementation. The AMA isn't even pretending to like it.

When explaining the need to find an alternative, Madara writes "While a number of other countries have implemented ICD-10, they have done so with a modified version of the code set and often with substantial government support. "

Am I missing something? Isn't ICD-10-CM a modified version of the code set? And that's why Madaras is able to complain about the 68,000 diagnosis codes that will create such a massive administrative and financial burden.

Also, there is a sentence so important that Madara marked it in bold:

"If stakeholders cannot reach consensus on this matter during this two-year delay period, then the move to ICD-10 should be postponed indefinitely."

This is confusing to me. Because if CMS spends two years searching for a better alternative and doesn't find one, the AMA conclusion is that we should forget about ICD-10 implementation. Other people may interpret the lack of alternative as a sign that's the best we have and we should run with it.

And if stakeholders (regulators, physicians, healthcare information technology professionals, medical coders, administrators, politicians) do reach consensus on an alternative, how in the heck is the CMS going to justify ICD-10 implementation?

I guess it's possible that stakeholder consensus could conclude that ICD-10-CM/PCS is the best solution. But in the modern political environment, consensus is an extinct creature.

I get the administrative and financial burden complaints. This isn't going to be easy. I've spent a lot of time this past year writing about how hard it's going to be. And the proposed rule has drawn comments from people identifying themselves as physicians who spend too much time on coding as it is. So they're not going to be happy with ICD-10-CM/PCS or any alternative in 2015.

It makes me wonder what would make them happy or move them toward consensus. Maybe they're reaching for meaningful use type incentives or lessening of other burdens.


It seems to me that the AMA,

It seems to me that the AMA, who owns their own code set, is in the business here of saying we don't want to use anything new. It is the physicians and physician associations across the United States, who have over the past several years have asked for more specificity in ICD-9 code sets. Now, that someone has provided it they don't want it implemented. ICD-9-CM is limited in space and capability of expanding so how does the AMA propose to expand to new diagnoses or procedures for the DRG system with those constraints or are they proposing that everyone move to the CPT codes for payment and usage. I don't see the AMA offering up other solutions at this point. If they want to propose a delay and ask for it to be delayed indefinitely then I feel they should have offered up a solution.

"Am I missing something?

"Am I missing something? Isn't ICD-10-CM a modified version of the code set?"
Could it be possible that he was referring to the relativity of the US version to other countries?
Can you provide a list of the countries implementing ICD-10-PCS?
Allen Frady, RN, BSN, CCS, CCDS

PCS is a US specific

PCS is a US specific modification. To my knowledge, there is no other country using this.

"ICD-10-PCS was to replace ICD-9-CM procedure codes for reporting Medicare inpatient procedures" (
There are several nations that have modified ICD-10 for country specific reasons. ICD-10 has been used in the US since 1999 for Cause of Death reporting. In fact, there has been a recent study noting an increase in death from falls that has been attributed to increased specifity in COD coding.

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